Posts by just n from bethel

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The Real God: An Epiphany (YouTube)

by leavingwt in

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my apologies if this video has already been posted at some point in the past.

only recently did i become aware of this particular video.

the opinions of the author are expressed in a way that was new to me.

just n from bethel

Atheists also react in frustration, anger, depression, etc, when they cannot get a theist to let go their faith.

This vague and general statement implies that this is the case with ALL athiests - or MOST athiests - or at the very least on an equal level with believers ... however - it's just not true. I've never seen one documented case of an athiest going into "depression" because theists can't let go of their faith. Even if such a case exists, how would it be representative of all or most athiests, or even a large number? It's simply not a true statement, at least in as much as it tries to categorize non-believers on an equal level of reactions as believers. Many believers in the supernatural get in the habit of not being able back up their statements with verifiable facts ... but the above statement is false (at least at any meaningful quantity - sure there's always outliers in any group, so anyone can play semantics). Whereas - It can be said that many sincere believers follow the 'sharing faith' pattern observed in the video.

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Evolution disproved by 11 year old niece

by StopTheTears in

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mary: what's evolution?.

me: well it's kinda complicated.

they think plasma gave birth to monkeys which gave birth to humans.

just n from bethel

sent you a pm billy

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Evolution disproved by 11 year old niece

by StopTheTears in

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mary: what's evolution?.

me: well it's kinda complicated.

they think plasma gave birth to monkeys which gave birth to humans.

just n from bethel

I would pay money to see your avatar do his own version of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyx6JDQCslE&ob=av3e

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Evolution disproved by 11 year old niece

by StopTheTears in

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mary: what's evolution?.

me: well it's kinda complicated.

they think plasma gave birth to monkeys which gave birth to humans.

just n from bethel

Billy!!!! I'm good man. How are you?? I want to see you on the Dean's list soon, so you know, quit feeding the monkey.

PM me sometime, we should catch up offline. Matter of fact, I'll PM you here in a few.

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Signs From God?

by What Now? in

not sure about the rest of you that are mentally out, but every now and again i still have those moments where i think "ok god, if this is in fact the true religion and the organization is right and i'm on the wrong path, send me a big, glaringly obvious sign that i can't ignore.. .

anyways, this past sunday my husband and i just did not feel like going to the meeting.

we weren't in the mood to sit through it.

just n from bethel

Personally I'm more interested in signs from Satan and the demons than signs from God. I always heard that as soon as you started becoming weak in the JW faith the devil would pounce on you like a roaring lion.

I was told the primary way he did this was by throwing temptation at me, the most common being loose women. Here I am a few years into my fade, with almost dead faith, and I'm not so lucky. Stan (that's my nickname for Satan now) hasn't thrown me one bone (giggity). Much less the 25 top model quality women that I openly agreed to selling my soul for if they would suddenly appear with immediate lust for me within a short time frame. And you know what ... I got nuthin.

In all seriousness, I'm working more than ever but actually enjoying not trying to fit in all the BS obligations that JW activity required for salvation and paradise that never comes. I've ran into so many JWs, at grocery stores, post offices, and everywhere between - one even tried to tell me it was a sign. I was like "how often do you come here" - He answered, ''once a week''. I replied ''I'm here at least two or three times a week, if this is a sign, then wow, someone with all power isn't really trying hard.''

Cofty is right - it's human nature to see patterns in what are otherwise natural coincidences at best. When you were ever on vacation for the first time in a new city, did you drive by a kingdom hall and notice it? How many other churches though did you drive by and notice that you still remember? Probably way more than kingdom Halls, but you never noticed them and certainly didn't remember them, because you didn't attach any meaning to them. It's simply what I call selective awareness.

You'll have it for a while - it won't ever be a sign. Eventually, you won't even notice it.

Now when I see those 25 top models that randomly appear out of nowhere looking for suntan lotion guy, the first thing I'm going to say when that happens is - "you're in luck - there's a town about 5 miles that way, I'm sure you'll find some guys there." Then I'll think to myself, "man - some day I'll get my break, I just gotta keep my eyes open."

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Evolution disproved by 11 year old niece

by StopTheTears in

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mary: what's evolution?.

me: well it's kinda complicated.

they think plasma gave birth to monkeys which gave birth to humans.

just n from bethel

Wow can't a guy step away for a few months without another patient with internet access at the insane asylum chalking up some 4000 posts of sheer lunacy?

The really really sad thing to me, is that several rational thinking posters actually try to engage with 'it'. Seriously, whether it be the OP troll poster or any babbling voice-hearing attention whores, I just don't get it.

I suppose if you're really bored, or relatively new here, like when I first came on board, there was the whole circus effect going on. "Wow - look at all the clowns" and you want to interact with them for a bit. But after a while the gag wears off and it stops becoming funny. It's actually scary - not that these types of loonies are out there - we know the type and they're on every forum on the internet. What's scary is that seemingly wise and reasonable posters give them the time of day. Even if there was a way to penetrate these deluded minds, why bother? It's like a very wise friend of mine once said: 'For every one reality denialist who comes around to a distilled and palatable version of the truth, twenty more verbal prestidigitators pop up like crazed prairie dogs to fill the emoting vacuum left behind by the convert’s exit.' And the sad thing is, many of these folks are not even that great with words to begin with, in many cases it's complete gibberish without the alcohol. Those that think they are gifted with their own speech (i.e. like to really hear themselves talk), go on to write an endless barrage of posts where every word is more useless than the previous one.

Engaging them in dialogue potentially confuses JW lukers who might be here looking for hope that everyone that left the org didn't go crazy. It also gives these a measure of legitimacy and respect which they have not earned by any of their content.

For me, taking a peak here now and then, I'm a little sad because it's like I'm watching some normally smart folks make an attempt at reasoning with a psychopath. You’re wasting your time and giving them more chances to make headlines so they can have the attention and pseudo-sympathy from onlookers. The way to handle psychopaths is to isolate and ostracize them, not try to engage them.

Everytime N Drew or some other 'world-in-their-own-twisted-mind' Jesus nutjob posts anything ... the only acceptable response is ignore and move on, or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

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I have allegedly been charged with apostasy

by Igot2bme in

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i recieved a letter today and it reads:.

sister jennifer b****,.

we request your presence for a judical hearing.

just n from bethel

Did you receive this "certified" or just regular mail? i.e. did you sign anything for it?

If you did not sign anything - they technically have no proof of contacting you.

One option then is to ignore, ignore, hide, and delay, until it goes away.

Assuming you don't go to meetings, do not answer their calls (even better - get a phone that blocks ph #s that u tell it to). Do not sign for any correspondence via mail or commercial carrier that comes from them or an "unknown/unmarked sender".

As for avoiding them in person, you might have to be a bit more pre-cautious than ususal. Can they freely approach your home anytime? Is there a way to prevent that?

Anyway - a lot depends on your situation, but if you've faded and aren't around JWs anymore, it can be a way to turn the tables on them. I think there was one poster that successfully filed a restraining order on the elders ... and I don't believe they ever proceeded with the JC after.

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Text message from a bro at the hall I got this morning as I woke

by shakyground in

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we miss you, hope to see you soon.

your dad will be wondering where you are at the resurrection.

love, bro.

just n from bethel

My response: "LOL, now send me a naughty pic of your wife, I want to see if the ones she's already sent me have not been altered"

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2012 Yearbook

by Mickey mouse in

by this point in the year the yearbook has usually been seen by someone and the partakers figure is known.

has anyone set eyes on it yet?.

just n from bethel

You know those scenes from 1984, where the announcer with a woman's voice from the tele-screen talks about how they had an increase in available razorblades when actually there's been a prolonged shortfall, and all the other spin that was changing negative events to make them look favorable... when I read force myself to skim through the yearbook I feel like I'm right there hearing that voice.

Oh and BTW - whats up everyone. That's a statement, not a question.

Hey growth is growth, and credit should be given to those responsible. So again, on behalf of the US branch: Gracias.

In the US, I think the growth came from two specific Mexican immigrant families. I'm pretty sure between the two extended familes, there were several thousand that started turning in time this past year. A few stragglers, but 90% of the two families (which btw started studying less than 12 months ago) are turning in a few hours for at least dropping some tracts off at the local taqueria. Unfortunately, due to the illegal immigrant status of many of the men, few will qualify to be a servant or elder. So more gringo elders from the english congregations will have to move to these flourishing rios de la vida. Then we can expect to see even more articles about how there just aren't enough brothers reaching out.

Oh well - kidding aside, all I know is this was the first service year I wasn't included in those numbers at all - that's all I care about.

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New 'Memorial' video by 'KingdomHallOfJws' on youtube!

by 3Mozzies in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tfwzx4b5y&feature=channel_video_title.

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i just love his videos!

just n from bethel

PIG, I rarely come to this site anymore, but someone sent me your latest link and I just wanted to send you a comment - I couldn't make it through the first minute without literally rolling on the floor laughing my f@#$ng ass off. You made my day - hell you made my year - with your latest video. Awesome job!!!! Send me a pm, I'd love to meet you in person someday.